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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:48 am 
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But here's the problem, ressha.

You're not talking about foreign policy.

You're commenting strictly on Israeli policy.

The ONLY reason you think he's bad on foreign policy and is "out of his element" is because he's not catering to Israel's every whim, like Bush did.

Which, personally, I agree with. I think y'all have made your own mess over there, and it's about time you cleaned it up yourself without us holding your hand for once. Want to attack Iran? Good. Go do it without our help. I get tired of hearing about Israel waving around it's nuclear weapons like a giant dick. In fact, at this point, I think most of the fucking world is tired of it. I think the rest of the world is also sick of the endless "peace talks" which will never get anywhere because Israel is too myopic to realize that a bunch of other religions have claim to that land as well.

Who else remembers the old Tom and Jerry cartoons with Spike the bulldog and his son?

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Well, that the US and Israel. We're Spike. You're the puppy that keeps starting shit and causing trouble, getting yourself in hot water and crying until Spike comes to bail you out time and time again.

Well, I think we're tired of all that. Go fix your own problems.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:29 am 
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Grave Dodgers wrote:
But here's the problem, ressha.

You're not talking about foreign policy.

You're commenting strictly on Israeli policy.

The ONLY reason you think he's bad on foreign policy and is "out of his element" is because he's not catering to Israel's every whim, like Bush did.

Which, personally, I agree with. I think y'all have made your own mess over there, and it's about time you cleaned it up yourself without us holding your hand for once. Want to attack Iran? Good. Go do it without our help. I get tired of hearing about Israel waving around it's nuclear weapons like a giant dick. In fact, at this point, I think most of the fucking world is tired of it. I think the rest of the world is also sick of the endless "peace talks" which will never get anywhere because Israel is too myopic to realize that a bunch of other religions have claim to that land as well.

Who else remembers the old Tom and Jerry cartoons with Spike the bulldog and his son?

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Well, that the US and Israel. We're Spike. You're the puppy that keeps starting shit and causing trouble, getting yourself in hot water and crying until Spike comes to bail you out time and time again.

Well, I think we're tired of all that. Go fix your own problems.

Amen. :clap: :clap: :clap:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:18 pm 
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Grave Dodgers wrote:
But here's the problem, ressha.

You're not talking about foreign policy.

You're commenting strictly on Israeli policy.

The ONLY reason you think he's bad on foreign policy and is "out of his element" is because he's not catering to Israel's every whim, like Bush did.

Which, personally, I agree with. I think y'all have made your own mess over there, and it's about time you cleaned it up yourself without us holding your hand for once. Want to attack Iran? Good. Go do it without our help. I get tired of hearing about Israel waving around it's nuclear weapons like a giant dick. In fact, at this point, I think most of the fucking world is tired of it. I think the rest of the world is also sick of the endless "peace talks" which will never get anywhere because Israel is too myopic to realize that a bunch of other religions have claim to that land as well.

Who else remembers the old Tom and Jerry cartoons with Spike the bulldog and his son?
Image

Well, that the US and Israel. We're Spike. You're the puppy that keeps starting shit and causing trouble, getting yourself in hot water and crying until Spike comes to bail you out time and time again.

Well, I think we're tired of all that. Go fix your own problems
.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :P

Would be great if our govt. saw things that way & cut everyone off. The money we hand to Israel & everywhere else in the world sure would be nice to have to fix our own problems here. As long as we have our own problems, we shouldnt be taking cae of anyone but ourselves. :noclue:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:22 pm 
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100 WATT wrote:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :P

Would be great if our govt. saw things that way & cut everyone off. The money we hand to Israel & everywhere else in the world sure would be nice to have to fix our own problems here. As long as we have our own problems, we shouldnt be taking cae of anyone but ourselves. :noclue:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:23 pm 
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ezgbass wrote:
100 WATT wrote:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :P

Would be great if our govt. saw things that way & cut everyone off. The money we hand to Israel & everywhere else in the world sure would be nice to have to fix our own problems here. As long as we have our own problems, we shouldnt be taking cae of anyone but ourselves. :noclue:


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:P



I'd like it, but he aint got a snowball's chance in hell of getting in.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:47 pm 
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My thing is that he's the only guy on the "Let's just leave everyone the fuck alone, as long as they leave us the fuck alone" platform.

Is that opinion really that unpopular, that out of the other 3 douches and the president, none of them have that policy platform?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:49 pm 
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ezgbass wrote:
My thing is that he's the only guy on the "Let's just leave everyone the fuck alone, as long as they leave us the fuck alone" platform.

Is that opinion really that unpopular, that out of the other 3 douches and the president, none of them have that policy platform?

empire building towards the nwo. Paul doesn't want that; the others do.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:00 pm 
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ezgbass wrote:
My thing is that he's the only guy on the "Let's just leave everyone the fuck alone, as long as they leave us the fuck alone" platform.

Is that opinion really that unpopular, that out of the other 3 douches and the president, none of them have that policy platform?


Pretty much how I see it. Take care of America. Help those who help / helped us. Pay who we owe debt to. everyone else... tough shit.

But.. big corperations... the Media.... we get who they want us to have, so those are what we get to pick from. :noclue:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:52 pm 
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Grave Dodgers wrote:
But here's the problem, ressha.

You're not talking about foreign policy.

You're commenting strictly on Israeli policy.

The ONLY reason you think he's bad on foreign policy and is "out of his element" is because he's not catering to Israel's every whim, like Bush did.

Which, personally, I agree with. I think y'all have made your own mess over there, and it's about time you cleaned it up yourself without us holding your hand for once. Want to attack Iran? Good. Go do it without our help. I get tired of hearing about Israel waving around it's nuclear weapons like a giant dick. In fact, at this point, I think most of the fucking world is tired of it. I think the rest of the world is also sick of the endless "peace talks" which will never get anywhere because Israel is too myopic to realize that a bunch of other religions have claim to that land as well.

Who else remembers the old Tom and Jerry cartoons with Spike the bulldog and his son?

Image

Well, that the US and Israel. We're Spike. You're the puppy that keeps starting shit and causing trouble, getting yourself in hot water and crying until Spike comes to bail you out time and time again.

Well, I think we're tired of all that. Go fix your own problems.

bail us out? when did that happen? all my life I saw the u.s as over-bearing and not really concerned with Israels interests but it's own.
the u.s doesn't bail us out, they use us as leverage against OPEC. (no criticism here, you do whats good for you. but don't give me the big brother looking out for ya bullshit)
if the world wouldn't have been so far up our ass the middle east would have been a quite place years ago. I've been saying that for years you heard me say it as well.
too myopic, are fucking serious? are you aware that everything that abu-mazen demanded that the u.n force Israel to give him
was offered to him by olmert, and to arafat as well A DECADE earlier by barack? no? I didn't think so.
israel is waving it's big nuclear dick around because there's this dude who can't seem to stop talking about sending us all to doom. which also seems to be hell bent on getting nukes.
you don't like that? go fuck yourself, apparently the u.s believes it has an interest in stopping us from attacking, if you don't want us to attack
you've got to solve this problem in another way. we have only one.
& here's a little reminder, both the Syrian reactor and the Iraqi one were destroyed without american help or approval, quite the opposite.
come to think of it, you play guitar for a band called god-hunter and you accuse me of anti-theism? that's rich. :lol:
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What can I teach you about Muslims?

start with why Jews are decedents of monkeys dogs and pigs and how we shouldn't be allowed to own land.
you can also start by explaining to me why my place on this earth is to serve as a "dimmie", a slave in other words to the muslim religion.
and then explain to me how racist I am.
you lived there for 3 years, that's nice, but I've spent my whole life around Arabs and Muslims. so take that I know cuz' Ive been there attitude with someone who isn't
from "Palestine".


going back to where this all started. you asked for legitimate reasons for not to like Obama, I gave them to you, you avoided everything I said and tried real hard to read between the lines, that's fine as well. I never said that I was right nor did I say that
I was being neutral. agree or disagree, you have the right. this wasn't supposed to be some kind of cross Atlantic political debate Israel right vs. u.s left, I was simply trying to show that not liking Obama isn't by default racism, especially considering all the people who voted for an un-acclaimed not-a-lawyer simply because he's black. which is also racist.
soooooooo screw you guys I'm going home. :!:


and nuclear duck is funny.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:12 pm 
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ressha wrote:
israel is waving it's big nuclear dick around because there's this dude who can't seem to stop talking about sending us all to doom. which also seems to be hell bent on getting nukes.
I am with you there my friend, that can't be fun at all and that's why I tried to cover my mouth when laughing about the "nuclear duck". Of course this is easy for me to say from the safety of the USA... but Ahmadinejad seems to be doing the same thing Saddam did and that is writing checks with his mouth that his ass can't cash. All of their talk about Israel needing to be annihilated is certainly not helping them, and is ultimately going to be their undoing. I think Iran will eventually back down or be beat down in regards to building nuclear facilities... but it certainly must be uncomfortable for you to be sitting in the frying pan waiting for that to happen. There are so many angles... don't forget that if war breaks out in Iran right now, our gas prices will skyrocket and Obama needs to be reelected. In that regard... just keep your fingers crossed that you aren't nuked in the next 9 months or so and a 2013 Obama-led United States will most likely have some new resolve when it comes to defending Israel/shutting down Iran's nuclear movement.

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you don't like that? go fuck yourself
That's not very nice. :cry:

..will be back for the rest... gotta run out to KFC for some nuclear chicken. :tup:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:47 pm 
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ressha wrote:
come to think of it, you play guitar for a band called god-hunter and you accuse me of anti-theism? that's rich. :lol:


My band, Godhunter, is art. Which, as far as I always knew, was something totally different than morals and ethics. For instance, if you smear a load of cum on a crowded bus window, you're a criminal. But if you smear a load of cum on a canvas and sign your name to it, you're an artist.

And, I do think there is a difference between being against religion in general, like me, and not liking one specific religion, like most of the world. And I'm not just talking about you. I'm fully aware of certain Muslims attitudes towards Jews. Or Christians. And vice versa. I have plenty of idiots I know in real life that will talk for two hours about the "evils of Islam." Or they'll talk about some fucking retarded Zionist conspiracy theory. Which is probably why I think all religions could fuck off for good and we'd all be better off.

Also, I named my band after a Beta Ray Bill comic book that I love. Because Beta Ray Bill takes down Galactus in it, and you can ask anyone how much I hate that giant purple asshole. The fact that people then take the name Godhunter to be anti-religious is just an added bonus I guess. Read into it what you will. I'm fairly sure there isn't anything specifically anti-theist on our new album. In fact, I'm fairly sure I've only written one anti-religion song in my life, and it was about the Catholics.

Now, back to Iran. From everything I've ever read, Ahmadinejad is basically just a puppet that has no real control or power in Iran. That's he essentially an angry puppet that the people actually in charge use specifically to piss off other countries, notably Israel and the US. From what I understand, most of what he says is to be taken with a grain of salt. I've also never read anything about Iran having any sort of delivery system for a nuclear attack. Yes, they have a reactor. Yes, they have material. So do quite a few other countries that we wish didn't. But how are they gonna get it there? Sneak nuclear material into the most secure country on Earth?

I just can't realistically look at Iran as any sort of threat to anyone except themselves. It's like high school. That big asshole that runs around telling everyone that he can kick their ass, usually he's actually a giant pussy with a tiny dick. So why are you afraid of him?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:54 pm 
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The clearest and most succinct explanation of the distinction between art and crime ever. :clap:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:59 pm 
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Did you pictures Graves doing that when you read it? I did. Not sure if that gets a :lol: or a :oops: or a :cry:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:30 pm 
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J wrote:
Did you pictures Graves doing that when you read it? I did. Not sure if that gets a :lol: or a :oops: or a :cry:


I'm guessing that you did then, so was it a :lol: or a :oops: or a :cry: or :jerk:

just make sure to aim for a canvass and not a bus window. :lol:


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